went 5-1 so i think i did pretty ok in ogpl. thanks to
Potatochan for getting me started and being my main team checker. s/o
Kaif for building me a good team i immediately lost with + support with
LittEleven and
STABLE for popping into my channel for ideas. and also to my playoffs supporters that i wont out
i built most of my teams myself and figured out the tier via good lab work + how i understood the meta at the time and think i got a really good handle of it by week 4 (this was the week when all my series stopped becoming turbo awful to watch btw)
this is probably where my personal VR is. I didnt think too hard after A- tho tbh
S+
most busted pokemon in the tier. ofc dealing with it in builder is a necessity because it's really fucking good. because the set compendium uses mail, tilt the shit out of your opponent by using apicot spdef twave+encore to deal with most specs assholes barring insane hax and physdef can run counter to beat most things. you can consider ganlon or somethng but i think that's just worse than counter really.
S-
specs renders 1/2 of the tier unviable while CM cress renders a completely different 1/3 unviable. super flexible ev wise and can even slap random moves on the last slot to hit whatever you want. run mail on cm to literally still lose to rotom btw
dd taunt is beyond its best set to beat like literally every special attacker + substall + CLEF!. counter is pretty good to mix things up but hard to slap on at times just because dd has a very neat MU spread.
substall, specs, and scarf are very good sets in their own right that counter different things. can afford to take random hidden powers to cover weirder matchups like infernape and dragonite.
tbh theres a marginal gap between tar and zapdos, and then another gap between zapdos and the rest
A+
controversial but this pokemon goes giga hard! lots of varied unique sets that can tech for different things - while cm is a classic, some things not rly on the compendium involve reflect, citrus, chesto rest, and specs which are quite solid in beating things that you could lose to if they’re strong enough (such as tar, gyara, scizor, hera and the like - week 4 i used it to beat a specs azelf, etc). being weak to clefable cress zap kou is not so good but your matchup spread against a lot of other things is quite favorable
specs aura has a winning chance against idiots like clef and can also afford to run random hidden powers to hit stuff that looks like 3-0s. specs is very evable to defeat cress. even faster substall than zapdos is cool. cm access is super nice because it can change its matchup spread a bit but ive been having trouble fitting cm kou on teams that cover the meta well so i havent explored it much
only rly this high because it's one of clefables best partners which you should spam for free elo! cb anything knocks out a lot of its threats like non endure hera/rhyp tar nite meta aero while also handling randoms like zapdos and some raikou to boot. endure custap doesn’t get a lot of important KOs that cb does but is prob ok enough.
A-
fastest pressure substall in the game + taunt exerts incredibly huge pressure in matchups where your opponent will really want to click into it or will otherwise lose. a mon that beats literally most band pokemon, all specs pokemon, clefables, and every other substall while even outplaying stuff like cmers like cress is a dangerous spread.
scarf meta is pretty good and is super evable + moveset customizable to beat random things. hp for all nite? yep. speed for max kou? yessir. does not beat aero somehow, so it is somewhat fraudulent. the other choice items have niches too - but i dont really think you should consider using meta in this meta (heh) if it’s not choiced tho imo.
super versatile with NP/cm/subseed/choice which makes it annoying to set read (subseed is prolly its best set) but just happens to mostly lose to the two best pokemon in the game lol - and unlike suicune/zapdos it doesnt feel like it really has a justifiable matchup spread otherwise cos they do better into the lower ranks. if they get banned it gets much better, but until then please enjoy being encored to death
dd taunt is very good in this meta again. very evable to randomly handle rhyperior, tar, and spdef clefable all at once which is kind of really fucking big. intimidate can also cheese random matchups and water is just a very nice typing atm as well
not very fond of this pokemon tbh i never really liked thinking ab building it as its hitlist is surprisingly large, ice/rock is kind of a common coverage type from both common and very not good pokemon and also because i felt like it would make me need to make hard reads on sets rather than creating teams that can beat most (standard) pokemon sets overall. for ex specs cress wins, but cm does not. deciding to dd or outrage is also a bit of 50-50 hell into things like counter tar or clef. the right set does do wonders in some MUs but it probably wont shine until teams, on paper, become more optimized (or clef/cress get banned)
can just outright win vs most offensive threats by being annoying and boosting up. max def counter beats all band idiots and is probably its best set, and you can even outplay some random taunters like gyara and tar to boot. unless you have the luck of stravench in our last series (all love LOL), no matchup is completely 100 though due to the 1/16 crit rate. taunt and encore ruin this pokemon though, and one of those moves should be on your team at least
insane set variety but do some numbers and you start to realize infernape is kind of a piece of shit, no matter what set it runs, cos no matter what its matchup spread it’s kind of really subpar into the tier. yes, it’s really flexible with taunt/endure/np/specs/probably band etc and you need to set guess it but my zapdos uses hp flying, my tar has chople, my suicune uses surf etc
kind of the fringe of b. deceptive set variety, possibly super underexplored. disable is a good move, rain is really good for pwning all tar, sub petaya gets nice KOs too
resist berries are probably underexplored, but choice item and taunt allow it to find super good niches in teams (taunt is a good move btw)
B+
jacob has been beating everyone in tests with this pokemon
LMAO
because you can ev this to beat specs cress by sacrificing some speed, you now smack all the S tiers to the fucking moon (besides sub zap/cm cress lol) which is actually a giga spread at times. winning MUs vs any thing not named a normal resist/endure/protect/sub.
countercoat deceptively good because you can cheese a lot of matchups. you can kinda run out of smacking pp vs like aero tho. endure is ok but u can feel a bit weak at times.
specs moltres is pretty good, strong overheat w/ extra flying coverage for fightings makes its best friend tyranitar happy
guts kinda slams things to the moon, payapa actually does weird shit like pwning celebi, which is kinda cool for a fighter. CB is probably underexplored. hariyama can scrap!
actually does not beat clef, but good typing + good mu against cress and tar is a good niche, and beating like some celebi and dragonite randomly is cool
super scary mon in preview if you are a clef elo abuser like me. has actually real set variety in choice/sub/endure. Very sus MUs into the A- ranks but you have real cress win chances and should be able to 100% clef/tar with a broken move that nobody's using (but i'll edit and reveal after finals)
not a very impressive matchup spread, but as a ghost type in a clef cress dominated tier it can randomly find crazy impressive 3-0 matchup fishes depending on forme.
B-
CB 100%s tar and stuff while custap deals with other matchups. general cress and zap beater that can also kill dragonite, its coverage is strangely very useful and rock blast access also. your MU spread is weirdly pretty fine
torrent hydro cannon off it’s spatk is a lot and is surprisingly good into weirder offensive teams without S ranks but struggles to beat the core pokemon of the tier. specs is also good but less of a gag because you need to have other defensive investment to beat some of the stuff you’d like a water type to, like eq tar
like heracross but it trades less punching power/speed which makes it lose random matchups for a better defensive typing which makes it win less random matchups. notably does not 100% beat clef
custap frenzy plant hurts like a bitzch. being so bad into zapdos and cress is not good tho. specs is not viable i fear
specs sets cleans A- and below randoms like a mf, and 115 is a fire speed tier to kill like zapdos/infernape. if it were 116 to beat kou it bumps like a rank
i ran an endure set week 3 and it was fine. anti electric by nature. curse is also ok. randomly beats tar and meta and lowkey most nape and shit too
everything below has like giga minor niches that i wont cover in the post, special shoutout to some i didn't feel too comfy bringing but actively tried to build around
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overall i enjoyed playing this tier! it can get a bit lame in builder, clef is rly hard to actually punish but i do think it’s not the worst thing ever. as someone new to 1v1 I think dpp is the most welcoming tier to new players because it’s probably the easiest tier to “solve” right now. from what i can gather it’s like playing ss but the top pokemon have 2 viable sets instead of 5. which is, well, probably lame if you like to build and be creative and stuff but im a clicker through and through baby.
i dunno if the tier even needs to ban clef per se, because you will need to probably immediately ban cress after, and it’ll make the core teams tar zap suicune esque where celebi and registeel show up at times to randomly also be A+. but that being said current teams ill prepared for clefable become a lot more viable and contestable in preview, and theoretically some other pokemon should get more viable, so we’ll see.
here’s two of my favorite teams - i was gonna reuse these in semis vs stravench
https://pokepast.es/4b8ecfc65ed9a162 boring ass apicot clef and tar BUT we have a specs suicune with air slash!! no gyarados/heracross expects to be one-shot by specs suicune. unfortunately has to be relaxed due to the event move but iirc i calced some matchups that actually are helped out by this awful nature for no reason
https://pokepast.es/2bf679b8a93c3b0d cm resto cress!! iirc the raik we’re hp flying for midground heracross cos i figured my opponent would come for my clefable, but you do have a rhyperior, so you can probably change it to another hidden power of your choice. cm rest + chesto + shadow ball is good for beating other cress and stall assholes as vs substall you have enough PP to just +6 and go crazy. you are a bit reliant on rhyperior to get shit done, though.
see ya in pl