Quality Control WHYYYYYY GAMEFREAK... WHYYYYYYYYYY(Battle Bond Greninja) [QC 1/2]

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name: Battle Bond
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Dark Pulse
move 3: Water Shuriken
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
tera type: Water
ability: Battle Bond
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Owing to its incredible speed and unique ability, Greninja is a frightening late game sweeper and cleaner that is capable of snowballing teams after a one-time boost thanks to Battle Bond. Surf can be used as an alternative to Hydro Pump, trading power for more consistency and its best used on rain teams. Water Shuriken provides good priority for Greninja to revenge kill faster-weakened threats such as Darkrai and Deoxys-Speed, as well as letting Greninja bypass revenge-killing attempts from certain priority moves such as Sucker Punch from Kingambit. Ice Beam allows Greninja to hit Dragon-type Pokemon such as Roaring Moon and Dragonite as well as hitting Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior and Meowscarada much harder. Sludge Wave can be used over Ice Beam as an alternative coverage move that can notably 2HKO Assault Vest Primarina after Stealth Rock damage while also having a stronger move to hit Ogerpon-W. Tera Water enhances Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken's damage output, giving Greninja a good chance to OHKO Hatterene and Booster Speed Great Tusk with Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken, respectively, while still 2HKOing Gouging Fire and Clefable with Surf and letting Greninja turn its Fighting and Fairy weaknesses into neutralities. Tera Ghost can be used an alternative Tera-type that allows Greninja to bypass Dragonite's Extreme Speed and Zamazenta's Body Press.

Greninja fits best on hyper offense and rain teams as an excellent sweeper and cleaner. On hyper offense teams, leads such as Hisuian Samurott and Deoxys-Speed can get up hazards to help Greninja grab KOs more easily. Deoxys-Speed in particular is a great teammate for Greninja, as it can alternatively get up screens, making Greninja harder to take down so it can pick up a Battle Bond boost more easily. Dragonite is an excellent teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Grass-types such as Ogerpon-W and Rillaboom, while Greninja can eliminate physically defensive Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Garganacl. Gouging Fire is also a great teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Pokemon such as Rillaboom, Meowscarada, and Clefable. In return, Greninja can support Gouging Fire by eliminating Gliscor and Landorus-T, two Pokemon that could otherwise threaten Gouging Fire. Gholdengo is also a good teammate as it can help check Zamazenta, which is otherwise a dangerous threat that Greninja can let in while in return Greninja can help check Fire- and Ground-types such as Cinderace and Landorus-T. On rain teams, Pelipper is a prime teammate, as it sets up the rain and helps Greninja get safe switch ins with U-turn. Barraskewda is an excellent partner that helps Greninja by keeping momentum with Flip Turn and overwhelming shared checks like Primarina and Kyurem. Raging Bolt is a fantastic teammate for Greninja as it can break bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Primarina and SpDef Alomomola, in return, Greninja can eliminate Ground-type Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Gliscor for Raging Bolt. Iron Treads is a great teammate since it can reliably clear hazards to keep Greninja healthy, as well as being able to check Raging Bolt for Greninja. Rillaboom and Ogerpon-W are also excellent partners for Greninja, threatening special walls such as Primarina and Blissey for Greninja while in return Greninja can threaten Skeledirge and Dragonite for them, respectively.


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name: Battle Bond
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf (This is slashed on the on-site analysis)
move 2: Dark Pulse
move 3: Water Shuriken
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
tera type: Water
ability: Battle Bond
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Owing to its incredible speed and STAB moves, Greninja is a frightening wallbreaker and sweeper that is capable of snowballing teams after a boost thanks to Battle Bond. Water Shuriken provides good priority for Greninja to revenge kill faster-weakened threats such as Darkrai and Deoxys-Speed. (Mention that Water Shuriken can bypass revenge killing attempts from certain opposing priority users, namely Sucker Punch from Kingambit.) Ice Beam allows Greninja to hit Dragon-type Pokemon such as Roaring Moon and Dragonite as well as hitting Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior and Meowscarada much harder. (You can mention Sludge Wave as an alternative coverage move, as it can be useful for luring Primarina. It has a high chance to 2HKO AV Primarina after Stealth Rock damage.) Maximum Special Attack and Speed EVs allows Greninja to hit as hard as possible while maximizing its Speed. (This information is unnecessary.) Tera Water enhances Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken'(AAP)s damage output, giving Greninja a good chance to OHKO Hatterene and Booster Speed Great Tusk with Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken, respectively, while also letting Greninja turn its Fighting and Fairy weaknesses into neutralities. (Other Tera types might be worth mentioning. In particular, Tera Ghost is useful for bypassing Dragonite's Extremespeed and Zamazenta.)

Greninja fits best on hyper offense and rain teams as an excellent wallbreaker and cleaner. On hyper offense teams, leads such as Hisuian Samurott and Deoxys-Speed can get up hazards to help Greninja grab KOs more easily. Deoxys-Speed in particular is a great teammate for Greninja, as it can get up screens, making Greninja harder to take down so it can pick up a Battle Bond boost more easily. Dragonite is an excellent teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Grass-type Pokemon such as Ogerpon-W and Rillaboom, while Greninja can eliminate physically defensive Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Garganacl. Gouging Fire is also a great teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Pokemon such as Raging Bolt, Meowscarada, and Clefable, in return, Greninja can eliminate Gliscor and Landorus-T for Gouging Fire. (Would separate this into two sentences, one talking about what Gouging Fire does for Greninja, and another talking about how Greninja can support Gouging Fire. Also, Gouging Fire is not a good answer to Raging Bolt at all. Its standard sets have difficulty dealing with Raging Bolt immediately and are likely to get decimated by Raging Bolt's Draco Meteor. I'd mention a different Pokemon in its place, like Rillaboom.) On rain teams, Pelipper is a prime teammate, as it sets up the rain and helps Greninja get safe switch ins with U-turn while also being able to cover Grass-type Pokemon such as Rillaboom and Ogerpon-W with Hurricane. (This is somewhat valid, but Pelipper is not the best at switching into these Pokemon, given its Rocks weakness + neutrality to grass, so I would remove this point.)Barraskewda is an excellent partner that helps Greninja by keeping momentum with Flip Turn and overwhelming shared checks like Primarina and Kyurem. Raging Bolt is a fantastic teammate for Greninja as it can break bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Dondozo and Alomomola, in return, Greninja can eliminate Ground-type Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Gliscor for Raging Bolt. Iron Treads is a great teammate since it can reliably clear hazards to keep Greninja healthy, as well as being able to check Raging Bolt for Greninja. (Gholdengo and Dragapult should be added as additional partners to help check Iron Defense Zamazenta, which is a dangerous threat Battle Bond Greninja can let allow in. Partners to immediately force out or threaten Primarina, such as Rillaboom should also be mentioned.)


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I would like a recheck before approving this as QC 2/2

name: Battle Bond
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Dark Pulse
move 3: Water Shuriken
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
tera type: Water
ability: Battle Bond
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Owing to its incredible speed and STAB moves unique ability i think it would be better to mention its ability over stab moves, since greninjas stabs arent really anything special while its ability is the whole reason its usable, Greninja is a frightening wallbreaker and is greninja really used as a wallbreaker? Or is it more used as a late game sweeper/cleaner late game sweeper and cleaner that is capable of snowballing teams after a one-time boost thanks to Battle Bond. Talk about Surf as an alternative to Hydro Pump, and also add a section in Tera Water to describe what thresholds (if any) Tera Water hits with Surf Water Shuriken provides good priority for Greninja to revenge kill faster-weakened threats such as Darkrai and Deoxys-Speed, as well as letting Greninja bypass revenge-killing attempts from certain priority moves such as Sucker Punch from Kingambit. Ice Beam allows Greninja to hit Dragon-type Pokemon such as Roaring Moon and Dragonite as well as hitting Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior and Meowscarada much harder. Sludge Wave can be used over Ice Beam as an alternative coverage move that can notably 2HKO Assault Vest Primarina after Stealth Rock damage while also having a stronger move to hit Ogerpon-W. Tera Water enhances Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken's damage output, giving Greninja a good chance to OHKO Hatterene and Booster Speed Great Tusk with Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken, respectively, while also letting Greninja turn its Fighting and Fairy weaknesses into neutralities. Tera Ghost can be used an alternative Tera-type that allows Greninja to bypass Dragonite's Extreme Speed and Zamazenta minor nitpick but you don't really bypass Zamazenta entirely, just it's Body Press, since most Zamazentas carry Crunch nowadays.

Greninja fits best on hyper offense and rain teams as an excellent wallbreaker sweeper already talked about above and cleaner. On hyper offense teams, leads such as Hisuian Samurott imo Glimmora would be worth mentioning over Hsamu since it can deny opposing hazards + is just used more often but that's up to you and Deoxys-Speed can get up hazards to help Greninja grab KOs more easily. Deoxys-Speed in particular is a great teammate for Greninja, as it can alternatively just clarify you can't get screens and hazards on the same set get up screens, making Greninja harder to take down so it can pick up a Battle Bond boost more easily. Dragonite is an excellent teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Grass-types Pokemon such as Ogerpon-W and Rillaboom, while Greninja can eliminate physically defensive Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Garganacl. Gouging Fire is also a great teammate for Greninja as its able to deal with Pokemon such as Rillaboom, Meowscarada, and Clefable. In return, Greninja can support Gouging Fire by eliminating Gliscor and Landorus-T, 2 two Pokemon that could otherwise deal with it threaten Gouging Fire. On rain teams, Pelipper is a prime teammate, as it sets up the rain and helps Greninja get safe switch ins with U-turn. Barraskewda is an excellent partner that helps Greninja by keeping momentum with Flip Turn and overwhelming shared checks like Primarina and Kyurem. Raging Bolt is a fantastic teammate for Greninja as it can break bulky Water-types Pokemon such as Dondozo and Alomomola I'm not a big fan of this section, as no one is switching dozo into Greninja (gets cleanly 3hkoed) and phys def mola gets cleanly 2hkoed, if you want to keep the mention of bulky waters mention Primarina and Spdef Mola instead, in return, Greninja can eliminate Ground-type Pokemon such as Great Tusk and Iron Treads Gliscor I think it would be worth mentioning Iron Treads over Gliscor here, since Gliscor gets outsped by Bolt anyways for Raging Bolt. Iron Treads is a great teammate since it can reliably clear hazards to keep Greninja healthy, as well as being able to check Raging Bolt for Greninja. Gholdengo and Dragapult you don't really see dragapult on the same teams as Greninja, and I would move this section in general above rain since they fit more on the hyper offense teams mentioned above are also great teammates as they can help check Iron Defense Zamazenta both versions of zamazenta are threats that Greninja can let in, which is otherwise a dangerous threat that Greninja can let in. Other teammates that can also immediately threaten or force out Primarina if Greninja is not running Sludge Wave such as Rillaboom and Ogerpon-W, are highly excellent partners for Greninja. This sentence is kinda confusing, why not just word it like "Rillaboom and Ogerpon-W are also excellent partners for Greninja, threatening " etc etc + mention Blissey alongside Primarina


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